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  Beards and Circumcision: turning their argument around

  by neat blue dog in

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  one argument against beards i've heard multiple times, both from individual jws and from the platform is roughly:.

  'timothy got circumcised so as not to stumble others!

  shouldn't you be thankful you don't have to do that?

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  neat blue dog

  Yes, two of the four major components: mustache, chin, and both sideburns.
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  Beards and Circumcision: turning their argument around

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one argument against beards i've heard multiple times, both from individual jws and from the platform is roughly:.

  'timothy got circumcised so as not to stumble others!

  shouldn't you be thankful you don't have to do that?

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  neat blue dog

  So by JW theology this is technically allowable 😜

  
  
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  Beards and Circumcision: turning their argument around

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one argument against beards i've heard multiple times, both from individual jws and from the platform is roughly:.

  'timothy got circumcised so as not to stumble others!

  shouldn't you be thankful you don't have to do that?

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  neat blue dog

  It's funny though, while beards (anything on the chin basically) are off limits, JWs will sometimes see how far they can go with 'mustaches' that are so close to being beards, and/or 'sideburns' that do the same.
  
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  Beards and Circumcision: turning their argument around

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one argument against beards i've heard multiple times, both from individual jws and from the platform is roughly:.

  'timothy got circumcised so as not to stumble others!

  shouldn't you be thankful you don't have to do that?

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  neat blue dog

  One apologetic phrase I've heard regurgitated among American JWs is:

  'Over here beards aren't the custom.'

  That makes zero sense, seeing as there IS NO cultural 'custom' regarding beards in America . . . Some people have them, some don't. Now on the other hand, JWs definitely DO have a long-standing custom, 'tradition of men' if you will, against the wearing of beards.
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  Beards and Circumcision: turning their argument around

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one argument against beards i've heard multiple times, both from individual jws and from the platform is roughly:.

  'timothy got circumcised so as not to stumble others!

  shouldn't you be thankful you don't have to do that?

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  neat blue dog

  Betheliesalot:

  Lol, mental picture 😂

  I guess the same goes for beards
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  Beards and Circumcision: turning their argument around

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one argument against beards i've heard multiple times, both from individual jws and from the platform is roughly:.

  'timothy got circumcised so as not to stumble others!

  shouldn't you be thankful you don't have to do that?

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  neat blue dog

  One argument against beards I've heard multiple times, both from individual JWs and from the platform is roughly:

  'Timothy got circumcised so as not to stumble others! Shouldn't you be thankful you don't have to do that? Shaving is much easier!'

  Putting aside the fact that it has nothing to do with something being 'easy' or 'difficult', and everything to do with the principles involved, let's take them up on this comparison:

  Timothy was circumcised specifically to not offend the non-Christians he was going to be preaching to. There is no place in the civilized world that I am aware of that looks down on well groomed beards, so therefore there would be no reason to shave for the sake of preaching to others, seeing as many respectable people from all over the world have them: doctors, lawyers, police officers, fathers, grandfathers, clergy, etc. This alone renders the comparison irrelevant.

  But couldn't the same principle apply to the congregation, who are offended by beards? Let's see the very different way circumcision was viewed when imposed by FELLOW Christians, in Galatians:

  not even Titus who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:and that because of the false brethren privily brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: to whom we gave place in the way of subjection, no, not for an hour . . .

  
  All those who want to make a good impression in the flesh are the ones who try to compel you to get circumcised, doing so only to avoid being persecuted . . .

  
  they want you to be circumcised so that they may have cause for boasting about your flesh. . .

  
  For neither is circumcision anything nor is uncircumcision

  
  The phrase "stumbled" is all too often misunderstood by JWs to mean 'offended', but it actually refers to being stumbled away from Christ. If the offendee still claims to be a Christian, then they're just attempting to impose their own conscience on others, a conscience which itself has already been imposed on by a high-control group.
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  What would happen?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. jw
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  a thrift store down the street is run by members of a small, local christian congregation.

  evangelical but not sure what religion they are affiliated with.

  they have set up the store as a non-profit and have a specific use for the funds they acquire.

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  neat blue dog

  It's 'wrong' because it's apart from 'mother' and has nothing to do with furthering the organization's interests. They would be giving 'admonition' and then if they didn't change course would be disfellowshipped for apostasy.
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  Ministry experiences

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi does anyone have any bad ministry experiences to share or really funny ones?.

  some of mine were:.

  - having water sprayed on us with a hose.

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  neat blue dog

  Homeowner siced two dogs on us, which chased us to end of the driveway.

  Woman wearing very loose/low top with slightly visible areola, young brother talking with her stayed there a looong time, kept conversation going.

  Householder told pioneer she had a nice rack.

  Man who was a truther tried to 'witness' to us about aliens.

  Woman talked to us like we were possessed and said "Begone!"

  Mentally disabled (but otherwise somewhat normal looking) woman answers the door, and I talk for a little while only gradually realizing that the conversation is basically one way, then her caretaker comes to get her.
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  Prince's NWT Bible on the auction block

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. friends

  https://www.tmz.com/2018/07/11/prince-auction-bible-suit-purple-rain/.

  what's cooler than your copy of "purple rain" on vinyl?

  try owning one of prince's personal copies on vinyl!!

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  neat blue dog

  It is probably the silver sword, just in one of those personalized zipper covers with his name or something engraved. Whatever it says, for some reason they blocked it out. Looking closely though, it doesn't appear to say "Prince Nelson", so if it isn't his name I don't know what it says.
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  Online Bible Study! Yes they finally did it!

  by Ray Frankz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.jw.org/en/online-help/using-jw-org/online-bible-study-lessons/online-bible-study-lessons-video/.

  since the org discovered the internet i saw that one day they would release an online bible study so the people didn't need the witnesses to be indoctrinated by the gb.

  i have to admit that i didn't think they would do it now, without a great cerimony or announcement, but, hey, it's on!.

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  neat blue dog

  It has the disclaimer that 'this does not replace a home Bible study'